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In the decades following World War II, a great number of Pistole 08 (P08) were available at very reasonable prices. However, the Swiss Parabellum pistols were very expensive at that time, and so the Swiss shooters and Swiss gunsmiths became inventive. German Pistole 08 (P08) were converted to meet off-duty shooting regulations. The most important conversions were changing the caliber from 9mm Para to 7.65mm Para by replacing the barrel. The exchange barrel was given the weapon number in accordance with Swiss standards. A grip back safety had to be retrofitted as well. In the post-war period, labor costs were relatively low and material costs relatively high, which made such elaborate conversion work economically interesting. A conversion of Pistole 08 (P08) was obvious, since the first parabellum pistols in Switzerland (Pistole 1900 and Pistole 1900/06 DWM) came from the same DWM factories. Such weapons are an interesting variation and were produced in different versions. Unfortunately, this is neither an original Pistole 08 (P08) nor an original Pistole 1900/06 DWM or Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24). According to today's Hilfsmittelverzeichnis, 27.132, such weapons may no longer be used in official off-duty shooting, as they are not one of the listed variants (concluding: Pistole 1900, Pistole 1900/06 DWM, Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) and Pistole 06/29). The prohibition of such converted parabellum pistols is already contained in the 1981 Auxiliary Equipment List (see Chapter 3.8, Attachement). | |
23.09.2023 | petitesann... | 7113562 | 9297 | DWM P08 1916 7,65 parabellum | CHF | 1'000.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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18.08.2023 | petitesann... | 6876180 | Luger P08 allemand modifié suisse en 7,65 pa... | CHF | 1'200.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.08.2023 | Aebi Waffe... | 7130 | Pistole Mauser Parabellum P08 7.65mm Para | CHF | 1'750.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.08.2023 | Aebi Waffe... | 7131 | Pistole DWM Parabellum P08 7.65mm Para | CHF | 1'750.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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30.07.2023 | gebrauchtw... | 76192 | 5463t | Luger 7.65 Parabellum | CHF | 900.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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30.07.2023 | waffengebr... | 25379 | MAUSER ODER LUGER Top Schussbild Kaliber:7.65... | CHF | 850.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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09.06.2023 | NaturAktiv... | 43251 | SCHWEIZER ORDONNANZ Parabellum 1906 DWM 7... | CHF | 1'450.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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09.06.2023 | NaturAktiv... | 59882 | 8809 | SCHWEIZER ORDONNANZ Parabellum 1906 DWM 7... | CHF | 900.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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07.06.2023 | NaturAktiv... | 8027 | SCHWEIZER ORDONNANZ Parabellum 1906 / P08 DW... | CHF | 1'450.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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15.04.2023 | Kessler Au... | 54160 | 60b | Parabellumpistole, Sammleranfertigung, DWM, K... | CHF | 1'045.50 | ![]() | ![]() |
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15.04.2023 | Kessler Au... | 54310 | 2724c | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, Mauser Parabellum, M... | CHF | 1'045.50 | ![]() | ![]() |
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01.02.2023 | petitesann... | 6758555 | Pistolet Parabellum DWM 7,65 mm | ![]() | |||||||
02.01.2023 | petitesann... | 6102048 | 6243k | Pistolet semi-automatique DWM 1908 commercial | CHF | 1'750.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.08.2022 | Kessler Au... | 22557 | 2094i | Pistole, Parabellum, Mod. 06, Schützenwaffe, ... | CHF | 738.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.08.2022 | Kessler Au... | 22733 | 6630i | Pistole, Parabellum DWM, 08/06, sog. Schützen... | CHF | 380.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.08.2022 | Kessler Au... | 22739 | 2971 | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum, Mod. ... | CHF | 528.90 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.08.2022 | Kessler Au... | 22803 | 1513 | Pistole, Parabellum DWM 06, sog. Schützenwaff... | CHF | 442.80 | ![]() | ![]() |
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29.04.2022 | Kessler Au... | 52335 | 2191a | Pistole, Parabellum, Mod. P06/08, Schützenwa... | CHF | 615.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.03.2022 | waffengebr... | 16937 | Parabellum Pistole DWM 7.65mm Para | CHF | 749.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.03.2022 | gebrauchtw... | 57461 | Para Ordnance 7.65x22mm Parabellum / 7.65x22... | CHF | 1'500.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.03.2022 | eGun Schwe... | 150181 | Pistole P08 7.65mm Para CH Modifikation | CHF | 600.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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26.11.2021 | Kessler Au... | 51304 | 920i/5308 | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum 1916,... | CHF | 676.50 | ![]() | ![]() |
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16.11.2021 | gebrauchtw... | 53771 | 6243k | 1908 DWM 7.65x22mm Parabellum / 7.65x22mm Lug... | CHF | 1'750.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.09.2021 | gebrauchtw... | 51663 | Parabellum 9mm 9x19mm Parabellum/Luger/NATO | CHF | 1'500.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.09.2021 | gebrauchtw... | 51662 | Parabellum 9mm 9x19mm Parabellum/Luger/NATO | CHF | 1'500.00 | ![]() | |||||
17.06.2021 | NaturAktiv... | 52594 | 3895 | SCHWEIZER + DDR Parabellum / P08 7,65mm par... | CHF | 500.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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20.12.2020 | petitesann... | 5559363 | Parabellum DWM allemand | CHF | 800.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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13.11.2020 | Kessler Au... | 49353 | 2240a | Pistole, DWM, Parabellum, Mod. 06/08, Schütze... | CHF | 565.80 | ![]() | ![]() |
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13.11.2020 | Kessler Au... | 49802 | 5539 | Pistole, Parabellum, Mod. P08, Schützenwaffe,... | CHF | 861.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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11.05.2020 | NaturAktiv... | 48745 | DWM Parabellum 1918 7,65mm para | CHF | 700.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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09.05.2020 | gebrauchtw... | 30684 | 2369 | Parabellum Commercial | CHF | 1'000.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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24.04.2020 | Kessler Au... | 48397 | 4378n | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum, Mod. ... | CHF | 738.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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24.04.2020 | Kessler Au... | 48398 | 3713a | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum, Mod. ... | CHF | 676.50 | ![]() | ![]() |
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12.10.2019 | NaturAktiv... | 47023 | 6505 | SCHWEIZER ORDONNANZ Parabellum Erfurt 1914 ... | CHF | 1'150.00 | ![]() | ![]() |
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23.08.2019 | Kessler Au... | 19534 | 9234a | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum, Mod. ... | CHF | 467.40 | ![]() | ||||
16.11.2016 | Kessler Au... | 41251 | 7097k | Pistole, Commercial 06/08, Parabellum DWM, so... | CHF | 780.00 | ![]() | ||||
26.08.2016 | Kessler Au... | 16489 | 9715 | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, DWM Parabellum, Mod. ... | CHF | 840.00 | ![]() | ||||
26.08.2016 | Kessler Au... | 16588 | 8426y | Pistole, Parabellum 08/06, Schützenwaffe, Kal... | CHF | 720.00 | ![]() | ||||
13.11.2015 | Kessler Au... | 39897 | 667 a | Pistole, Commercial 06/08, Kal. 7.65mmP. Para... | CHF | 600.00 | ![]() | ||||
21.08.2015 | Kessler Au... | 150419 | 4685t | Pistole, Schützenwaffe, Parabellumpistole P08... | CHF | 600.00 | ![]() | ||||
21.08.2015 | Kessler Au... | 150461 | 2656 | Pistole, Parabellum DWM, Schützenwaffe, Kal. ... | CHF | 720.00 | ![]() | ||||
17.04.2015 | Kessler Au... | 38787 | 6129i | Pistole, DWM Para 08/06 Commercial, Kal. 7.65... | CHF | 600.00 | ![]() | ||||
12.11.2014 | Kessler Au... | 370620 | 8142 k | Pistole Parabellum DWM Kal. 7,65mmP. Schützen... | CHF | 516.00 | ![]() | ||||
22.08.2014 | Kessler Au... | 140722 | 1001 | Pistole Parabellum, Kal. 7.65mmP. Sog. Schütz... | CHF | 480.00 | ![]() | ||||
08.11.2013 | Kessler Au... | 35760 | 77251 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schützen... | CHF | 516.00 | ![]() | ||||
08.11.2013 | Kessler Au... | 35761 | 2143 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schützen... | CHF | 600.00 | ![]() | ||||
06.11.2010 | Kessler Au... | 29417 | 8008/4875 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schützen... | CHF | 428.40 | ![]() | ||||
06.11.2010 | Kessler Au... | 29478 | 9241 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 9mm Para. Schützenw... | CHF | 357.00 | ![]() | ||||
21.08.2010 | Kessler Au... | 10371 | 4685 t | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schützen... | CHF | 476.00 | ![]() | ||||
21.08.2010 | Kessler Au... | 10372 | 631 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Zusammen... | CHF | 952.00 | ![]() | ||||
23.08.2008 | Kessler Au... | 08461 | 5356 r | Pistole, Parabellum 08, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schwe... | CHF | 892.50 | ![]() | ||||
10.11.2007 | Kessler Au... | 23373 | 8012 | Pistole, P 08, Erfurt 1917, Kal. 7,65 Para. U... | CHF | 773.50 | ![]() | ||||
25.08.2007 | Kessler Au... | 07340 | 4543 | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Aus eine... | CHF | 768.26 | ![]() | ||||
26.08.2006 | Kessler Au... | 06430 | 5049 r | Pistole, Parabellum, Kal. 7,65 Para. Aus eine... | CHF | 595.00 | ![]() | ||||
27.08.2005 | Kessler Au... | 05461 | 5150 h | Pistole, Parabellum 06, Kal. 7,65 Para. Schüt... | CHF | 833.00 | ![]() |
Pistol 08, Swiss ModificationGER: Die vorliegende Waffe ist eine auf Schweizer Norm umgerüstete Pistole 08 (P08) aus der Fertigung der Deutschen Waffen- und Munitionsfabrik (DWM) von 1915. Die Waffe wurde 1966 für CHF 100.- gekauft (Quittung: Picture) und dann im Jahr 1967 von der Büchsenmacherei Zimmermann und Widmer in Basel für CHF 147.50 umgebaut (Quittung: Picture). Ein Ersatzmagazin wurde für weitere CHF 15.- erworben. Der Laufwechsel ist nicht auf der Umbauquittung erwähnt, vermutlicherweise wurde dieser bereits vorher gewechselt.Neben den im Vorfeld bereits erfolgten Laufwechsel von 9mm Para auf 7.65mm Para umfasste der Umbau den Einbau einer Griffrückensicherung. Dafür mussten Nuten gefräst sowie spezielle Teile beschafft werden. Der originale Schriftzug "Gesichert" wurde ausgefräst, da die Sicherung nun genau umgekehrt funktioniert. Nach den Arbeiten wurden die Teile neu brüniert. Ebenfalls wurde der Abzug neu reguliert und die Visierung auf eine U-Visierung angepasst. | ||||
Pistol 08, Swiss ModificationThe weapon shown (weapon number 8277) was developed from a German Pistole 08 (P08) of 1916. A barrel in caliber 7.65mm was mounted, also the safety was adapted (installation of a grip back safety analogous to the Swiss Parabellum pistols). Strangely enough, the safety now works wrong; when the word "secured" is displayed, the gun is unsecured and ready to fire. The weapon should thus comply with the Swiss regulations on off-duty shooting.The Pistole 08 (P08) was available after World War II in relatively large numbers and at reasonable prices, as the technology was outdated by developments during the war years (for example Pistole 38 (P38)). These conversions were made exclusively for private individuals (shooters), never for the Swiss Army. On the side the owner had his name immortalized on a plaque ("Fritz Troller, Solothurn"). | ||||
GER: Oben: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) Mitte: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Unten: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 08 (P08) |
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GER: Oben: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) Mitte: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Unten: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 08 (P08) |
GER: Oben: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) Mitte: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Unten: Schlitten und Verschluss Pistole 08 (P08) |
GER: Links: Griffstück Pistole 08 (P08) Rechts: Griffstück Pistol 08, Swiss Modification |
GER: Links: Griffstück Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) Rechts: Griffstück Pistol 08, Swiss Modification |
GER: Links: Griffschalen Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Rechts: Griffschalen Pistole 08 (P08) |
GER: Links: Griffschalen Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Rechts: Griffschalen Pistole 08 (P08) |
GER: Oben: Pistole 1900/06 W+F (Pistole 06/24) Unten: Pistol 08, Swiss Modification |
GER: Links: Pistol 08, Swiss Modification Rechts: Pistole 08 (P08) |
GER: Oben: Pistole 08 (P08) Unten: Pistol 08, Swiss Modification |
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GER: Pistol 08, Swiss Modification, Abzugsgewicht 1'393 Gramm. Achtung, das Abzugsgewicht kann bei jeder einzelnen Waffe anders sein! |
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