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Weapon Details: Sub machine gun 41/44   (Created: 23.01.2014, Changed: 23.02.2020)

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Weapon Details (Top):

Weapon:Sub machine gun 41/44
Manufacturer:Eidgenössische Waffenfabrik Bern (W+F)
Calibre:9mm Para
First Issued:1941
Overall Length:760 mm
Weight (unloaded):5200 g
Barrel Length:270 mm
Grooves:6
Rate of fire:900 rounds per minute
Magazine Capacity:40 Rounds
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Description:
In 1940, it was recognized that the Swiss Army did not have enough automatic weapons (or submachine guns) to be able to react appropriately in the event of a German attack.
 
An invitation to tender was launched, in which SIG and the Waffenfabrik Bern participated. Although the SIG model was actually convincing, the complex and expensive weapon of the Waffenfabrik Bern was selected and introduced as submachine gun 41.
 
The design of the Waffenfabrik Bern was based on the by Adolf Furrer, so the MP41 turned out to be a scaled-down version of it.
As it turned out, the MP41 or Sub machine gun 41/44 was the most expensive and most complicated submachine gun ever produced in large series.
 
Due to manufacturing problems, the experimental models (100 pieces) could only be delivered in April 1942. Between the end of 1941 and June 1944 about 5'200 MP41 were produced. Instead of the originally planned 600 MP's per month, only about 60 to 70 pieces could be delivered per month.
The weapons proved to be cumbersome and susceptible to dirt, but also precise. The problems that arose in the field led to various improvements, which were implemented in the Sub machine gun 41/44. Almost all of the MP 41s already produced were also upgraded to the Sub machine gun 41/44.
From June 1944 until the end of 1945 about 4'500 more Sub machine gun 41/44 were produced.
 
The MP41/44 differs from the MP41 in the following points:
- Lateral protective cover firmly welded (three points)
- The loading lever has a cam to secure it
- The extractor axle has been reinforced
 
At a later date, the relatively brittle bakelite shafts were replaced by wooden versions. Also the front grip was no longer wrapped with string.
 
The Sub machine gun 41/44 is shooting from open bolt, where the toggle action bolt is open when the shot is fired, and when the trigger is pulled, the bolt rushes forward, feeds a cartridge, fires it and then slides back to the open position.
 
The safety lever has three positions:
S = Safe
M = Mitraillieren (automatic fire)
F = Fire (single fire)
 
Two-row 40-shot bar magazines were used, which were inserted into the gun from the right side. The magazines were in cartridge bags, which were strangely made of sheet metal. The ammunition pouches consisted of two sheet metal containers, each of which held three magazines. So each shooter had six magazines of 40 rounds each on man, additionally one magazine was inserted into the gun, which corresponded to an ammunition capacity of 280 rounds. The magazines were loaded with a magazine loading tool.
 
The Sub machine gun 41/44 with 5.2kg was very heavy and unwieldy.
 
With the introduction of the Maschinenpistole 43/44 the Sub machine gun 41/44 was used in fortifications and by secondary troops, where weight and the risk of contamination did not play a major role.
 
The Sub machine gun 41/44 remained in service with the army until the 1960s. Many pieces were scrapped in the early 1970s (according to certain sources 9'100 pieces were scrapped).
LMG/P
 
 

Market monitoring (Top):


 
 
21.08.2020    Kessler...    20678    10351    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'168.50   
21.08.2020    Kessler...    20687    10316    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'168.50   
21.08.2020    Kessler...    20690    17395    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'476.00   
21.08.2020    Kessler...    20702    14516    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    950.00   
21.08.2020    Kessler...    20712    14868    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'300.00   
02.06.2020    AATS-Shop    11926W+F    11926    Maschinenpistole W+F Bern MP 41/44 Furrer,...    CHF    1'100.00   
24.04.2020    Kessler...    48209    17379    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'000.00   
16.11.2019    Kessler...    47221    10720    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'168.50   
18.09.2019    gebrauchtwaffe...    29680    18677    Maschinenpistole 41/44    CHF    1'100.00   
23.08.2019    Kessler...    19904    18290    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'722.00   
23.08.2019    Kessler...    19913    16084     Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'968.00   
18.06.2019    Joray Marius...    AA133        Automat MP Furrer W&F    CHF    980.00   
18.06.2019    Schild Waffen...    1421        Maschinenpistole W&F Mod. MP14/44,Kal....    CHF    1'800.00   
15.05.2019    petitesannonce...    4819354    11873    Pistolet Mitrailleur Furrer, mod.41/44    CHF    1'250.00   
20.04.2019    gebrauchtwaffe...    26164        Maschinenpistole W+F 41/44    CHF    1'200.00   
28.01.2019    eGun Schweiz    133854        MP Furrer 41/44 9 Para Kniegelenkverschl    CHF    1'011.00   
28.01.2019    gebrauchtwaffe...    23852        MP Furrer 41/44 9 Para Kniegelenkverschluss    CHF    800.00   
02.12.2018    petitesannonce...    4285417        Mitraillette Furrer mp 41/44 Suisse Ordonnanz          
27.10.2018    gebrauchtwaffe...    21508    18677    Maschinenpistole 41/44    CHF    1'400.00   
16.10.2018    gebrauchtwaffe...    21271        MP Furrer 41/44 Schweizer Ordonnanz ...          
03.10.2018    eGun Schweiz    131839        Maschinenpistole MP 41/44, Furrer    CHF    1'600.00   
24.08.2018    Kessler...    18287    10548     Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'560.00   
24.08.2018    Kessler...    18290    11049    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'560.00   
26.05.2018    Kessler...    46185    18288    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'968.00   
20.04.2018    Kessler...    44230    18871    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    2'040.00   
20.04.2018    Kessler...    44287    17610    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'680.00   
03.04.2018    eGun Schweiz    129362        Furrer Mp 41/44 Schweizer Ordonnanz    CHF    1'650.00  
08.03.2018    gebrauchtwaffe...    16798        Furrer Mp 41/44 Schweizer Ordonnanz...          
11.10.2017    gebrauchtwaffe...    14139        W+F MP-41/44 Furrer    CHF    1'200.00   
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17885    19397    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'200.00  
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17891    18301    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'300.00  
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17892    17960    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'320.00  
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17894    18871    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'600.00  
21.04.2017    Kessler...    42909    19484    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'920.00  
26.08.2016    Kessler...    16245    18871    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'600.00  
26.08.2016    Kessler...    16271    19484    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'600.00  
26.08.2016    Kessler...    16279    18455    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'200.00  
26.04.2016    Kessler...    40167    19096    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44...    CHF    1'800.00  
26.04.2016    Kessler...    40174    19293    Maschinenpistole, MP 41, Kal. 9mmP. LL ...    CHF    3'360.00  
26.04.2016    Kessler...    40216    17402    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44, Kal....    CHF    1'560.00  
21.08.2015    Kessler...    150812    10474    Maschinenpistole W+F MP 41/44, Kal. 9mmPara....    CHF    1'440.00  
21.08.2015    Kessler...    150843    18455    Maschinenpistole, WF Bern, MP 41/44, Kal....    CHF    1'920.00  
24.08.2013    Kessler...    13261    19402    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern Mp 41/44...    CHF    1'680.00  
24.08.2013    Kessler...    13265    19534    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern Mp 41/44...    CHF    3'960.00  
27.04.2013    Kessler...    34277    18722    Maschinenpistole, CH-Ord. Mp 41/44 "LMG...    CHF    1'680.00  
10.11.2012    Kessler...    33296    13937    Maschinenpistole, CH-Ord. MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm ...    CHF    2'223.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12361    18077    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'872.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12366    12096    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'287.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12367    18757    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern Mp 41/44...    CHF    1'287.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12368    18451    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'872.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12369    16411    Maschinenpistole, Waffenfabrik Bern, MP...    CHF    1'521.00  
27.08.2011    Kessler...    11551    17390    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Waffenfabrik...    CHF    3'042.00  
22.08.2009    Kessler...    09508    19431    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'340.00  
22.08.2009    Kessler...    09512    13797    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'574.00  
22.08.2009    Kessler...    09517    11519    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'574.00  
22.08.2009    Kessler...    09519    10009    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'574.00  
23.08.2008    Kessler...    08549    11753    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/43, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'989.00  
23.08.2008    Kessler...    08550    15157    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/43, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'340.00  
23.08.2008    Kessler...    08551    18153    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/43, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'755.00  
25.08.2007    Kessler...    07442    12404    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'170.00  
25.08.2007    Kessler...    07443    16664    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'521.00  
26.08.2006    Kessler...    06490    19863    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'989.00  
27.08.2005    Kessler...    05526    17914    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Waffenfabrik...    CHF    833.00  
28.08.2004    Kessler...    16987    19863    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'000.00  
30.08.2003    Kessler...    14745    10962    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    833.00  
30.08.2003    Kessler...    14746    12938    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'755.00  
30.08.2003    Kessler...    14754    19540    Maschinenpistole, Mp 41/44, Waffenfabrik...    CHF    1'638.00  
27.04.2002    Kessler...    12228    14006    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    1'625.96  
01.09.2001    Kessler...    10728    11469    Maschinenpistole, MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm Para....    CHF    2'106.00  
28.04.2001    Kessler...    10249    10821    Maschinenpistole, CH-Ord. MP 41/44, Kal. 9mm ...    CHF    2'787.36  
 
Magazines 
25.05.2020    gebrauchtwaffe...    36599        Furrer MP 41/44 Magazin Ladehilfe          
27.02.2020    petitesannonce...    5185911        Furrer 1941/44, LMG Mp 41/44 aide          
26.02.2020    Ricardo AG    1099173268        Furrer 1941/44, LMG Mp 41/44 Ladehilfe    CHF    160.00   
 
Documentation 
15.08.2020    Ricardo AG    1131672500        Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    8.00   
22.05.2020    Ricardo AG    1116579394        Regl. Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    17.00   
26.04.2020    Ricardo AG    1115544120        Techn.Reglement,Die Maschinenpistolen.    CHF    6.00   
19.04.2020    Ricardo AG    1114294334        Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    7.00   
09.02.2020    Ricardo AG    1104524932        Reglement Maschinenpistolen    CHF    18.00   
26.01.2020    Ricardo AG    1102649702        Maschinenpistolen Reglement Prov Ausgabe    CHF    14.00   
 
Accessories 
03.04.2020    Ricardo AG    1076594892        Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    10.00   
03.12.2019    Ricardo AG    1089986532        Reglement Maschinenpistolen 2. WK    CHF    12.00   
24.11.2019    Ricardo AG    1094191786        Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    2.00   
03.10.2019    Ricardo AG    1077719332        Reglement Maschinenpistolen 1955    CHF    12.00   
22.09.2019    Ricardo AG    1084358022        Reglement Die Maschinenpistolen (MP)    CHF    8.00   
05.08.2019    Ricardo AG    1075983474        Die Maschinenpistolen 1955    CHF    9.00   
16.06.2019    Ricardo AG    1069332058        Die Maschinenpistolen    CHF    15.00   
10.06.2019    Ricardo AG    1069394364        reglement mitraillette Maschinenpistolen    CHF    9.00   
16.05.2019    Ricardo AG    1065441034        Die Maschinenpistolen, Techn.Reglement    CHF    12.00   
25.02.2019    Ricardo AG    1007061326        DIE MASCHINENPISTOLEN / Ausgabe 1944    CHF    19.90   
16.11.2018    gebrauchtwaffe...    22047        Magazintasche für MP 41/44    CHF    350.00   
10.07.2018    Ricardo AG    1001032086        reglement mechaniker 9mm MP 1941 44    CHF    50.00   
21.06.2018    Ricardo AG    999042944        Porte-chargeurs PM FURRER 41-44    CHF    132.00   
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17886    ohne    Magazintrageinheit mit 6 Magazinen zur MP...    CHF    288.00  
25.08.2017    Kessler...    17895    ohne    Magazintrageinheit mit 8 Magazinen zur MP...    CHF    720.00  
12.01.2017    NaturAktiv AG    11482        FURRER MP Magazine 2x 3 Stück im Etui 9mm...    CHF    450.00   
21.08.2015    Kessler...    150824        Konvolut von 6 Magazinen zu MP Furrer,...    CHF    312.00  
27.04.2013    Kessler...    34278        Konvolut von 3 Magazinen zu MP 41/44, mit...    CHF    396.00  
25.08.2012    Kessler...    12370        Konvolut von 6 Magazinen zu Furrer MP 41...    CHF    511.70  
 
 

Ammunition (Top):

Pistolenpatrone 41 Manipulier
9mm Parabellum (Luger), kommerziell
Pistolenpatrone 41 (9mm Pist Pat 41)
Pistolenpatrone 41 Versuch
Pistolen-Markierpatrone 77
Pistolenpatrone 14 (9mm Pist Pat 14)
 
 

Attachements (Top):

Reglement: Die Maschinenpistolen, Ausgabe 1943 (PDF, 2.5 MB, Source: Scan by swisswaffen.com)
Reglement: Die Maschinenpistolen, Ausgabe 1955, Nachdruck 1972 (PDF, 5.6 MB, Source: Scan by swisswaffen.com)
 
 

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GER: Sub machine gun 41/44, Schnittmodell mit der Waffennummer 1

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